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Ridiculous use of Admin power.

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PandaBearQQ

Your Minecraft name: PandaBearQQ
Time of the incident: 6:24
Who is the admin that abused their privileges: Stabby
How was the Admin abusing their privileges: Banned a friend for swearing
What Admins were online at the time: Stabby, Franksey

I understand that this server doesn't tolerate swearing, however, my friend (coolisme) who had just joined the server (whom I immediately teleported them to me) was only on for under 10 minutes was banned on unfair grounds. He said "Hello I am a pooopy face" and then proceeded to say "I once killed a man, with my dick" That is all he said. Firstly pooopy is hardly considered a swear word. Secondly he only swore once after his first initial sentence. He was given a warning, however he was banned after his second sentence by the admin Stabby. Me and my other friend (friend was jailed) were then muted due to the fact that we thought that it was unjust. Clearly it doesn't seem like we have the freedom to speak our own opinion. I also find it absurd that Stabby then swore not long after by saying "Some people don't know when to shut the fuck up when talking to a server operator". http://puu.sh/8KsXu I've looked at some of the other reports against Stabby and have seen that someone responded to it saying that swearing is frowned upon but is allowed if it isn't excessive. I don't understand why Stabby would proceed to ban my friend over him swearing just once (twice if you count pooopy) All of this is incredibly ridiculous. Stabby has also admitted to swearing somewhat in one of the other posts, which confuses me further. I don't expect this to end in the unbanning of my friend, in fact all three of us don't intend to return to this server ever again. However the reason I am writing this is because I hope that this can be resolved so that this doesn't happen to anyone else in the future.

Thank you
 
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Megan

Alright, seeing as I was involved in this I would just like to add a little note on how the situation occurred and how Stabby needs to either be put on some form of warning (I am not sure how you guys operate in that regard, such as whether it is monitored behaviour or simply a formal statement of warning) or at the very least an apology from her. Also, please bear with this essay length mass of writing and sorry in advance. The situation occurred when my friend and I, PandaBearQQ had been on the server for several hours myself and around a day for her. We are generally very friendly and fair people who just enjoy casually playing games and were glad that we had finally found an Australian Server that wasn't completely packed, laggy, and had some reasonably good mods to help make the adventure be slightly more spiced up. We are no way in any shape or form trolls or plan malice towards others on the server like was tried to imply after the events of our being muted, banned and jailed. We spent this time simply wandering around, getting gear together, and building our respective bases - you know, the usual of what you do in Minecraft. It was later on that we decided to invite our other friend (who admittingly is a bit of a vulgar idiot, but will get himself in gear when he is warned once) to join the server and come play with us. Like PandaBearQQ stated, he simply said the first innocent line as a test to see what rank he was so we could identify if he could accept a teleport request (I had been unable to do it a couple of hours earlier when I had joined so we were trying to see if his rank had changed from Squid to the next one up that can use commands). We played for what might have been 20 minutes (I am not 100% sure because I was multitasking by building and getting ready for work in real life at the time) when he decided to say something again for a laugh which was already outlined above. He received a warning from one person (I think it was Franksey) immediately after and so I told him out of Minecraft that he should probably stop because it wasn't allowed. However, less than a minute after the warning Coolisme was then banned by Stabby even after he had not said anything further than that one line.

I was incredibly confused to say the least and asked the administrators why they had done that when he had just been warned and I was told that he was swearing and it wasn't acceptable on the server. I tried to reiterate that he had been warned already and it was heavily inappropriate to ban him immediately after said warning and he had performed no further aggravated action. This was simply met with Stabby telling me he had done it before in the server (which was the 'poop' line, he had never been on it at any other point in time) and saying rhetorics such as it being inappropriate to say "F*c" on the server numerous times which had absolutely no context to the situation we were talking about. I again tried to reiterate that he had only sworn once and that he had received a warning for it so he had no reason to be banned. However the response again was along the lines of "Stop fighting this or I will mute you as well". I then tried to state how incredibly abusive of the power and job as an administrator/moderator it is to act like that and how as a person with former leadership of various online communities both in Minecraft and on forums I felt they were doing a very bad job at administrating in that regard. I admit I did get a tiny bit snarky after I continued to only get threats about how I should shut up and stop talking about it or I will be punished and I did say some rude things, but nothing truly bad. I believe it was something along the lines of "As an adult it is hilarious to watch children in positions of power" and when she replied she was an adult as well I said "Well obviously not a very good one" - but that's essentially the extent of it because directly after that I was placed in jail and muted. I then told my friend PandaBearQQ to tell her that I had run communities with issues like this all the way to as serious as Child Pornography (which is honestly a horror to deal with and incredibly sad to encounter, but it is true nonetheless) and how I have experience so my word shouldn't simply be brushed off as some disgruntled person with not even a vague idea of how things run in that way. However after saying 2 lines I had asked her to say (which was stated from her view so it was not evident she was helping me avoid a form of punishment), she too was muted even though she had said absolutely nothing rude, vulgar, or anything that breaks the rules.

I will end this rather long block of information by also stating that for the next 20 minutes I was on and talking to my 2 friends who were incredibly angry about what had happened and how they were treated, Stabby also said several things to other people about myself in a very smearing way along the lines of "Oh just some idiots not listening to an OP" that I found incredibly offensive and a blatant disregard for the members of the server opposed to what might be viewed as someone looking down on others or putting them self on a pedestal. She also said "Fuck" once in another line after I was muted in which, if I recall correctly, is the exact same amount of times Coolisme swore and was with a much worse word yet narry a word was said against her for this. I think Stabby needs to get off her high horse and actually act as she should in the position she is placed in otherwise it is incredibly unfair and unwelcoming to the members of the server whom she should be on equal ground with in regards to rules. If this is not possible, which I assume it is not since this is not even close to the first report against her, then action should be taken and I request an apology because of this incident.

Note: I don't expect Coolisme to be unbanned because I saw the draft of the topic he made in Skype that he sent after I had left for work that I did not see until about 30 minutes ago and I think it was inappropriate enough to automatically assume that he has not felt remorseful or apologetic in any way as well as the various rules he broke from the contents, and should therefore stay banned (not that I think he even cares to be unbanned anyway).
 
Coolisme was banned because when people come on, and the only two things they say are rude, it's 99% of the time a good indicator of a bad player. You cannot deny I was wrong on that, considering the pathetic slew of abuse received last night.
The only reason you two became involved is that you were REPEATEDLY asked to not discuss bans in-game by both myself and other players. Did you not read the rules when you first joined? Rule 1: Admins word is law. And we have never allowed discussion of bans in game. You disregarded my warnings and those warnings of others, and proceeded to insult me, and I took appropriate action. Your ignorance is what got this blown out of proportion. Listen to staff.
I have over 600 bans on this server and how many abuse threads? Three at most? 0.05% of people think I do a bad enough job to warrant an abuse thread. I do my job, and if people argue with me, I take action according to the situation, which I believe was Just.

I'm quite willing to drop this topic. However, perhaps a refresher on the rules found at /spawn or by typing /rules in-game would be beneficial to the both of you. I'm not out to make enemies, I'm there to make sure the server runs the way it should.
 
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PandaBearQQ

Firstly, just because you think it's a "99% of the time it's a good indicator of a bad player" doesn't mean you should go banning someone right off the bat. Aren't you being just a tad judgemental? I mean I do understand that there is a possibility that it could indicate a bad player, however don't you think you should at least give them a chance before banning them? Or maybe at least warn them by saying "if you continue to swear, you will be banned". I will admit that my friend is immature and responded to the ban very innapropriately. However he had no intention of actually chatting in game, let alone swear publicly. As we have said previously, he was only testing his ranks (I do know he could've said something less ridiculous and vulger). Also you say we were involved due to repetitive talk about bans in game, except you only muted me after I merely said that my other friend has dealt with similar situations and quite serious ones as well. I don't understand how that in anyway is relevant to the talk about bans nor did I ever insult you. Also I have read the rules and it says "Occasional swearing is not okay, but is accepted." But clearly it isn't if you're going to ban them for it based on you thinking that "usually" it's a good indication of a bad player. I was the initial person who started playing on this server, I thought "hey why not get some friends to join in on this server" only to have one of my friends banned for saying "poopy" and dick". I would've understood more if it was excessive swearing, continued on for a long period or was having a negative impact on the community.
 
In order to conclude this I am going to summarise very briefly. coolisme would have been unbanned had they used to forums in the correct way we told him to, instead of the tiresome way he did. His performance on the forums only confirmed my reason for banning him initially.
After repeatedly asking you two to drop the topic in-game, and your subsequent non-compliance you were muted, which is a standard course of action for people who wish to argue with staff. I stand by my decisions to mute you both temporarily as you were negatively affecting the game yourselves. mutes have since been removed, and will not have an impact on further time you spend on the server.

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